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Onmyboat You are missing the point of Deacon Peitler and Mr. Palmer. I was a hospital chaplain for 8 years in three different hospitals. For 5 years, I worked at all three (2 full time and one part time). The problem in the big public hospitals and even some of the big private ones, is that the government has a huge say in the USA. With an influx of government money, there is an exodus of charity. I saw this so many times at the VA and the University Hospital in San Antonio, Texas. Then, there's the problem of ethics. I almost laughed a few times in ethics meetings as they were so vacuous and seemed always stripped of any real resolution to follow any decisive moral tradition. It really matters not who decides as long as the medical centers are smaller and more concern with the patients as human beings and not as mere numbers (patients who often are seen by several different doctors in a two or three day visit) and somewhat depersonalized occupants of bed space. - Fr. Kloster